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	<title>Comments on: What Trac Says About Python</title>
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	<description>Data is ones and zeroes &#124; Software is ones and zeroes and hard work.</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Whitehead</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/145.html#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 21:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Make that &quot;I didn&#039;t know you&#039;d started 2 or more blogs&quot; (counting livejournal).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Make that &#8220;I didn&#8217;t know you&#8217;d started 2 or more blogs&#8221; (counting livejournal).</p>
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		<title>By: David Ascher</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/145.html#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ascher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 18:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t make a really good case why Trac _should_ be using one of the frameworks you have in mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t make a really good case why Trac _should_ be using one of the frameworks you have in mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Whitehead</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/145.html#comment-114</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Whitehead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg, I didn&#039;t know you&#039;d started a blog.

Trac is indeed very cool. I set it up on my development PC to manage a nascent project of mine, mostly because it&#039;s about the only python-based wiki I can stand. The bug tracking features are also great to have, even if not needed at this stage, and the extensibility is a real bonus. It&#039;s too bad the PyWebOff analysis doesn&#039;t apply, but I&#039;m sure it&#039;ll come in handy for other projects (and other people).

It&#039;s annoying that wxWidgets doesn&#039;t support RTL text, but hardly surprising. Its developers seem to be spread much too thin, and as a result it always seems to be missing functionality and polish. And testing. If GTK wasn&#039;t so ugly (maybe fixable with a theme) and so onerous to install on Windows, pyGTK would make a great alternative.

Unfortunately your blog (especially older posts) seems to be suffering from comment spam, such is the price of fame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg, I didn&#8217;t know you&#8217;d started a blog.</p>
<p>Trac is indeed very cool. I set it up on my development PC to manage a nascent project of mine, mostly because it&#8217;s about the only python-based wiki I can stand. The bug tracking features are also great to have, even if not needed at this stage, and the extensibility is a real bonus. It&#8217;s too bad the PyWebOff analysis doesn&#8217;t apply, but I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;ll come in handy for other projects (and other people).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s annoying that wxWidgets doesn&#8217;t support RTL text, but hardly surprising. Its developers seem to be spread much too thin, and as a result it always seems to be missing functionality and polish. And testing. If GTK wasn&#8217;t so ugly (maybe fixable with a theme) and so onerous to install on Windows, pyGTK would make a great alternative.</p>
<p>Unfortunately your blog (especially older posts) seems to be suffering from comment spam, such is the price of fame.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan LaCour</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/145.html#comment-113</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan LaCour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with you here.  I really do love the idea of developing web applications in Python, but nothing has compelled me as much as Rails, and I haven&#039;t found any good, simple, end to end solutions in Python.  Don&#039;t get me wrong -- there are a ton of ways to write Python web apps, just none that are as simple and compelling as Rails.

I like Python the language a lot more than Ruby, mainly because of the &quot;more than one way to do it&quot; perlish approach taken.  I like the simplicity and boundaries of Python.

Is there anyone out there working on a Rails-like all-in-one web application kit for Python?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with you here.  I really do love the idea of developing web applications in Python, but nothing has compelled me as much as Rails, and I haven&#8217;t found any good, simple, end to end solutions in Python.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong &#8212; there are a ton of ways to write Python web apps, just none that are as simple and compelling as Rails.</p>
<p>I like Python the language a lot more than Ruby, mainly because of the &#8220;more than one way to do it&#8221; perlish approach taken.  I like the simplicity and boundaries of Python.</p>
<p>Is there anyone out there working on a Rails-like all-in-one web application kit for Python?</p>
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		<title>By: Trac Truk</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/145.html#comment-112</link>
		<dc:creator>Trac Truk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 16:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like what you really want is Trac on top of RubyOnRails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like what you really want is Trac on top of RubyOnRails.</p>
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		<title>By: Unsigner</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/145.html#comment-111</link>
		<dc:creator>Unsigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2004 15:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; the Python community still doesn&#039;t
&gt; realize how damaging it is to offer
&gt; half a dozen half-baked alternatives
&gt; instead of a single clear answer.

Replace &quot;the Python community&quot; with &quot;the open-source community&quot; and it will still be true, and even sadder...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; the Python community still doesn&#8217;t<br />
&gt; realize how damaging it is to offer<br />
&gt; half a dozen half-baked alternatives<br />
&gt; instead of a single clear answer.</p>
<p>Replace &#8220;the Python community&#8221; with &#8220;the open-source community&#8221; and it will still be true, and even sadder&#8230;</p>
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