Comments on: Upgrading Their Plots http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/2904.html Data is ones and zeroes | Software is ones and zeroes and hard work. Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:07:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Lila http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/2904.html#comment-2959 Lila Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:31:03 +0000 http://pyre.third-bit.com/blog/?p=2904#comment-2959 I agree that the second two years of Battlestar Galactica should be purged from the universe and replaced with something else, but I *don't* think that another time-paradox is necessary. There were lots of interesting questions that never got answered -- where were all the cylons coming from? Why did they have a hierarchical system? How did they send a radio signal (or an electrical signal, in the episode where an 8 puts a cable *directly into her wrist vein*) from a body which is all-biological? Why do cylons, with their clearly superior technology, cling more strongly to myths and religion than the humans they seek to squash? What DID all the cylons on the "newly" colonized post-nuclear 12 planets DO? Did they all just wander around saying "hello" to identical copies of themselves? What about cylon culture, art, government, technology? I agree that the second two years of Battlestar Galactica should be purged from the universe and replaced with something else, but I *don’t* think that another time-paradox is necessary. There were lots of interesting questions that never got answered — where were all the cylons coming from? Why did they have a hierarchical system? How did they send a radio signal (or an electrical signal, in the episode where an 8 puts a cable *directly into her wrist vein*) from a body which is all-biological? Why do cylons, with their clearly superior technology, cling more strongly to myths and religion than the humans they seek to squash? What DID all the cylons on the “newly” colonized post-nuclear 12 planets DO? Did they all just wander around saying “hello” to identical copies of themselves? What about cylon culture, art, government, technology?

]]> By: alex dante http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/2904.html#comment-2958 alex dante Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:41:59 +0000 http://pyre.third-bit.com/blog/?p=2904#comment-2958 I'm a big fan of the comic author Warren Ellis, mostly for the fact that his SF tends to _start_ at the point most others finish. What's interesting (to me) is what happens _after_ first contact / the singularity / etc. Right now, I'm both enjoying and struggling with 'Defying Gravity', struggling mostly because it's not moving fast enough, and because the constant flashbacks make it feel like the astronauts never actually left... For something about a six year mission through the solar system, I would've liked a lot less focusing on past bar experiences the crew had...not to mention the hamfisted references to the non-human life form that they keep awkwardly working into conversation... The scariest thing about Aliens3 is that it was such a godawful experience of studio interference for David Fincher that immediately afterward he was inclined to never make another film again...and who would we have to document the rise of Facebook without him? :) I’m a big fan of the comic author Warren Ellis, mostly for the fact that his SF tends to _start_ at the point most others finish. What’s interesting (to me) is what happens _after_ first contact / the singularity / etc.

Right now, I’m both enjoying and struggling with ‘Defying Gravity’, struggling mostly because it’s not moving fast enough, and because the constant flashbacks make it feel like the astronauts never actually left… For something about a six year mission through the solar system, I would’ve liked a lot less focusing on past bar experiences the crew had…not to mention the hamfisted references to the non-human life form that they keep awkwardly working into conversation…

The scariest thing about Aliens3 is that it was such a godawful experience of studio interference for David Fincher that immediately afterward he was inclined to never make another film again…and who would we have to document the rise of Facebook without him? :)

]]> By: rgz http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/2904.html#comment-2957 rgz Tue, 08 Sep 2009 06:59:43 +0000 http://pyre.third-bit.com/blog/?p=2904#comment-2957 I agree, your versions are superior. However I'm afraid that there are a couple of problems with them. 1) They sort of take the story into a different genre which might be part of the attractive since doing the same thing again is repetitive but doing something different is bad for the bottom line since people know they go to see aliens to see monsters popping out of the ceiling to eat people with their little mouths. It's the kind of stuff that I only see working in books. 2) The only problem is that while you make interesting scenarios with premises full of questions it is still a chance that answering (or not) does questions satisfactorily is impossible, you might be painting yourself into a corner, so to speak. I would still want you on the writing board of any of these movies, they suck. I agree, your versions are superior. However I’m afraid that there are a couple of problems with them.

1) They sort of take the story into a different genre which might be part of the attractive since doing the same thing again is repetitive but doing something different is bad for the bottom line since people know they go to see aliens to see monsters popping out of the ceiling to eat people with their little mouths.

It’s the kind of stuff that I only see working in books.

2) The only problem is that while you make interesting scenarios with premises full of questions it is still a chance that answering (or not) does questions satisfactorily is impossible, you might be painting yourself into a corner, so to speak.

I would still want you on the writing board of any of these movies, they suck.

]]> By: Peter Boothe http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/2904.html#comment-2956 Peter Boothe Tue, 08 Sep 2009 02:16:31 +0000 http://pyre.third-bit.com/blog/?p=2904#comment-2956 William Gibson actually wrote a (much better) script for Alien 3 - http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Alien3.txt Your point almost seems to be that fanfic and its original sources are going to become less and less distinguishable over time. William Gibson actually wrote a (much better) script for Alien 3 – http://www.awesomefilm.com/script/Alien3.txt

Your point almost seems to be that fanfic and its original sources are going to become less and less distinguishable over time.

]]> By: Jorge http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/2904.html#comment-2955 Jorge Tue, 08 Sep 2009 01:38:26 +0000 http://pyre.third-bit.com/blog/?p=2904#comment-2955 You must read (maybe you have?) the short story "Queremos tanto a Glenda" ("We Love Glenda So Much"), by Julio Cortazar. I have a copy in Spanish but it would be of little use to you... You must read (maybe you have?) the short story “Queremos tanto a Glenda” (“We Love Glenda So Much”), by Julio Cortazar. I have a copy in Spanish but it would be of little use to you…

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