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	<title>Comments on: Slides From DevDays Talk in Toronto Oct 23</title>
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	<description>Data is ones and zeroes &#124; Software is ones and zeroes and hard work.</description>
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		<title>By: Greg Wilson</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/3103.html#comment-3096</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 20:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@James see http://pyre.third-bit.com/blog/archives/2910.html :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@James see <a href="http://pyre.third-bit.com/blog/archives/2910.html" rel="nofollow">http://pyre.third-bit.com/blog/archives/2910.html</a> <img src='http://third-bit.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James Hatheway</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/3103.html#comment-3095</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hatheway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way @Greg, if you expand this presentation into book form I&#039;ll be the first to pre-order it on amazon :)

The topic is very fascinating to me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way @Greg, if you expand this presentation into book form I&#8217;ll be the first to pre-order it on amazon <img src='http://third-bit.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The topic is very fascinating to me</p>
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		<title>By: hyfen.net &#187; Stack Overflow Devdays, in Pictures</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/3103.html#comment-3094</link>
		<dc:creator>hyfen.net &#187; Stack Overflow Devdays, in Pictures</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] posted his slides: Bits of Evidence View more presentations from Greg [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] posted his slides: Bits of Evidence View more presentations from Greg [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Balogh</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/3103.html#comment-3093</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Balogh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>+1 on more reference details.  I&#039;m interested in the stuff on Greatest Hits V1.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+1 on more reference details.  I&#8217;m interested in the stuff on Greatest Hits V1.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomek</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/3103.html#comment-3092</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 13:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could you please provide more detail on the references you list e.g. Nagappan et al (2007) &amp; Bird et al (2009)? What are the actual publication titles? Great presentation anyway :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could you please provide more detail on the references you list e.g. Nagappan et al (2007) &amp; Bird et al (2009)? What are the actual publication titles? Great presentation anyway <img src='http://third-bit.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James Hatheway</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/3103.html#comment-3091</link>
		<dc:creator>James Hatheway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 03:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Greg (and everyone:. Someone in the audience recorded the presentation, you can download the MP3 at:

http://craigagreen.com/downloads/gregwilson.mp3

(This isn&#039;t my recording, got the link off of meta.stackoverflow.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Greg (and everyone:. Someone in the audience recorded the presentation, you can download the MP3 at:</p>
<p><a href="http://craigagreen.com/downloads/gregwilson.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://craigagreen.com/downloads/gregwilson.mp3</a></p>
<p>(This isn&#8217;t my recording, got the link off of meta.stackoverflow.com)</p>
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		<title>By: Irving Reid</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/3103.html#comment-3090</link>
		<dc:creator>Irving Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sol: One of the (claimed) benefits of code review is that &quot;subtle interactions between different layers&quot; will be noticed as a bad smell and cleaned up before they lead to hellish bugs. &quot;You&#039;re not supposed to use that object like that; use this instead.&quot; is the big win, because it has the biggest cost to fix later. Not that &quot;you missed an array bounds check&quot; is bad, but it should not be the primary purpose of the review.

Hard core test-driven development and Dependency Injection style programming also claim to help keep your layers clean. This idea appeals to me, but (as far as I know) the evidence is not as sound as for code review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sol: One of the (claimed) benefits of code review is that &#8220;subtle interactions between different layers&#8221; will be noticed as a bad smell and cleaned up before they lead to hellish bugs. &#8220;You&#8217;re not supposed to use that object like that; use this instead.&#8221; is the big win, because it has the biggest cost to fix later. Not that &#8220;you missed an array bounds check&#8221; is bad, but it should not be the primary purpose of the review.</p>
<p>Hard core test-driven development and Dependency Injection style programming also claim to help keep your layers clean. This idea appeals to me, but (as far as I know) the evidence is not as sound as for code review.</p>
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		<title>By: Alejandro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alejandro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 02:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The slides are getting some attention at reddit.com/r/programming

It would be nice if you made a vide available</description>
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<p>It would be nice if you made a vide available</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Wilson</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/3103.html#comment-3088</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Katy The map shows the birthplaces of the project students and external project mentors I&#039;ve worked with since 2002.  You&#039;re right, a caption would help... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Katy The map shows the birthplaces of the project students and external project mentors I&#8217;ve worked with since 2002.  You&#8217;re right, a caption would help&#8230; <img src='http://third-bit.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Katy Huff</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/3103.html#comment-3087</link>
		<dc:creator>Katy Huff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 01:06:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Intrigued by the title of these slides on YCombinator today, I clicked through and was pleasantly surprised to see that you were their maker! (I&#039;m Katy from the Hacker Within at UW-Madison, how nice to run into you on the internet again!)

Anyway, I just wanted to say that, as a woman in the sciences constantly struggling with software development, I thought your comparison of this problem to Dweck&#039;s work on gender in the sciences was right on target.

Though... I can&#039;t tell what the last map is supposed to indicate. Any hints?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Intrigued by the title of these slides on YCombinator today, I clicked through and was pleasantly surprised to see that you were their maker! (I&#8217;m Katy from the Hacker Within at UW-Madison, how nice to run into you on the internet again!)</p>
<p>Anyway, I just wanted to say that, as a woman in the sciences constantly struggling with software development, I thought your comparison of this problem to Dweck&#8217;s work on gender in the sciences was right on target.</p>
<p>Though&#8230; I can&#8217;t tell what the last map is supposed to indicate. Any hints?</p>
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