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	<description>Data is ones and zeroes &#124; Software is ones and zeroes and hard work.</description>
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		<title>By: The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; File Under &#8220;Really Not Getting It&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/847.html#comment-860</link>
		<dc:creator>The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; File Under &#8220;Really Not Getting It&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 10:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] self-selection explains the imbalance&#8221;. It&#8217;s a pity its author appears not to have read Ceci and Williams, or s/he might have realized just how many holes there are in that [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] self-selection explains the imbalance&#8221;. It&#8217;s a pity its author appears not to have read Ceci and Williams, or s/he might have realized just how many holes there are in that [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ITiCSE&#8217;07</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/847.html#comment-859</link>
		<dc:creator>The Third Bit &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ITiCSE&#8217;07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 20:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Sue Jane Jones and Gary E. Burnett: &#8220;Spatial skills and navigation of source code.&#8221; This was one of the most interesting papers in the whole collection, and I hope it&#8217;s followed up. The authors point out that being able to find your way around a program is (a) an important part of programming, and (b) a spatial skill. Their study shows that people with high spatial ability (as measured by standard tests) were able to complete programming tasks in less time than people with weak spatial ability. (See also my review of Why Aren&#8217;t More Women in Science?) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Sue Jane Jones and Gary E. Burnett: &#8220;Spatial skills and navigation of source code.&#8221; This was one of the most interesting papers in the whole collection, and I hope it&#8217;s followed up. The authors point out that being able to find your way around a program is (a) an important part of programming, and (b) a spatial skill. Their study shows that people with high spatial ability (as measured by standard tests) were able to complete programming tasks in less time than people with weak spatial ability. (See also my review of Why Aren&#8217;t More Women in Science?) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Janis</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/847.html#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>Janis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you know why I&#039;m not going to read this book?

Because I lived it in graduate physics.  I don&#039;t need to read a book that outlines in painful detail a problem to which there is no solution because the only people who have the solution in their hands -- MEN -- will not lift a finger.

Now awaiting the storm of how YOU ARE THE TRAITOR TO FEMINISM AND OBVIOUSLY DIDN&#039;T HAVE WHAT IT TAKES BECAUSE YOU DIDN&#039;T STAY AND ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE HARASSED AND STOMPED ON!

*tick tick tick tick*

I&#039;m out, will stay out, and am working for an educational nonprofit doing REAL work instead ofr wasting my time with a bunch of hostile assholes chasing some worthless number a couple kilometers downstream of a decimal point.  Men like things and women like people, my ass.  As far as the men I was with in that department were concerned, I WAS a &quot;thing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you know why I&#8217;m not going to read this book?</p>
<p>Because I lived it in graduate physics.  I don&#8217;t need to read a book that outlines in painful detail a problem to which there is no solution because the only people who have the solution in their hands &#8212; MEN &#8212; will not lift a finger.</p>
<p>Now awaiting the storm of how YOU ARE THE TRAITOR TO FEMINISM AND OBVIOUSLY DIDN&#8217;T HAVE WHAT IT TAKES BECAUSE YOU DIDN&#8217;T STAY AND ALLOW YOURSELF TO BE HARASSED AND STOMPED ON!</p>
<p>*tick tick tick tick*</p>
<p>I&#8217;m out, will stay out, and am working for an educational nonprofit doing REAL work instead ofr wasting my time with a bunch of hostile assholes chasing some worthless number a couple kilometers downstream of a decimal point.  Men like things and women like people, my ass.  As far as the men I was with in that department were concerned, I WAS a &#8220;thing.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Niklas&#8217; blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My Del.icio.us bookmarks created during the past week</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/847.html#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklas&#8217; blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; My Del.icio.us bookmarks created during the past week</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Review of a Book That Should Be Read Much More Widely Than It Will Be &#8212; Tagged as: [science feminism literature reading] [...]</description>
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		<title>By: People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-03-02</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/847.html#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>People Over Process &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2007-03-02</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 08:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Third Bit » Blog Archive » A Review of a Book That Should Be Read Much More Widely Than It Will Be Review of _Why Aren’t More Women in Science?_ and some brief commentary on women in software, including open source. (tags: opensource gender books via:annez) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Third Bit » Blog Archive » A Review of a Book That Should Be Read Much More Widely Than It Will Be Review of _Why Aren’t More Women in Science?_ and some brief commentary on women in software, including open source. (tags: opensource gender books via:annez) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dorothea Salo</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/847.html#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Dorothea Salo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Labnotes &#187; Rounded Corners - 108</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/847.html#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>Labnotes &#187; Rounded Corners - 108</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 08:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The need for social refactoring. &#8220;While the male:female ratio in the software industry is between 7:1 and 12:1, depending on how you measure it, the ratio in open source is at least 200:1, and probably worse. For a community that talks so loudly about freedom and rights, I think that’s shameful.&#8221; (Via Simon Willison) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The need for social refactoring. &#8220;While the male:female ratio in the software industry is between 7:1 and 12:1, depending on how you measure it, the ratio in open source is at least 200:1, and probably worse. For a community that talks so loudly about freedom and rights, I think that’s shameful.&#8221; (Via Simon Willison) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lillian Angel</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/847.html#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>Lillian Angel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 04:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Social refactoring is definitely long overdue. I think this topic has been danced around for a long time and there are so many possible reasons for it. I think the main reason so many women shy away from the computer industry is because of the image that they have.

They picture a group of socially inept adult boys at LAN parties. No offense to those that like LAN parties... just a typical stereotype of the industry. And with that image, how many women would decide to enroll in the CS/Engineering programs? In line with &quot;Why don&#039;t more men become nurses?&quot;

The industry isn&#039;t portrayed as a vital artery for the well-being of humanity, where it very much is... or even remotely interesting to those that don&#039;t take a liking to the gaming world as a young child.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Social refactoring is definitely long overdue. I think this topic has been danced around for a long time and there are so many possible reasons for it. I think the main reason so many women shy away from the computer industry is because of the image that they have.</p>
<p>They picture a group of socially inept adult boys at LAN parties. No offense to those that like LAN parties&#8230; just a typical stereotype of the industry. And with that image, how many women would decide to enroll in the CS/Engineering programs? In line with &#8220;Why don&#8217;t more men become nurses?&#8221;</p>
<p>The industry isn&#8217;t portrayed as a vital artery for the well-being of humanity, where it very much is&#8230; or even remotely interesting to those that don&#8217;t take a liking to the gaming world as a young child.</p>
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