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	<description>Data is ones and zeroes &#124; Software is ones and zeroes and hard work.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Software Carpentry in Ninety-Five Seconds by Miles</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/4429.html#comment-8938</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched your video.  I liked it, but I have the curse of knowledge---I already know what you&#039;re trying to say.

&quot;Mission: Help scientists be more productive by teaching them basic computing skills&quot;
The mission sounds good.  Sums things up quite nicely.  I was wondering, what do scientists get from increased productivity?  More time doing science?  Fewer hours at the office/lab?  Mission: show scientists how to be better programmers so they can spend more time

&quot;The problem is that scientists spend 40% of their time wrestling with software&quot;
&quot;The problem is that 95% of them are self taught&quot;
These sound more like statistics, but yeah---it&#039;s pretty easy to make the connection to problems.
The problem is that scientists waste time wrestling with software because they don&#039;t have the right training.  Sort of like programming the time on a VCR without reading the manual---you&#039;ll get it done, but it&#039;s slow an painful (I&#039;m old---I can refer to things like VRCs)

&quot;Take too long, build things that are already build, don&#039;t know how to verify correctness&quot;
This one hits the nail on the head.  There are three parts: time, duplication, correctness.  Would most scientists view all three as must-fix?  Or would one or more be nice-to-fix?

&quot;Solution: short, intensive workshops with self paced online learning&quot;
Where do I sign up!

&quot;Benefit: more confidence in results + higher productivity&quot;
Correctness was left out of this slide.  If your value prop is 1. time 2. duplication 3. correctness, does it make sense to talk about correctness here too?

&quot;Workshop offer the basics&quot;
If they spend 40% of their time programming, do they already know the basics?  What about: workshops offer best practices and must-know skills/tools.

&quot;More depth online&quot;
This one sounded like more breadth online.


Cool video.  If you put more cats in it, you&#039;ll probably get more views... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched your video.  I liked it, but I have the curse of knowledge&#8212;I already know what you&#8217;re trying to say.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mission: Help scientists be more productive by teaching them basic computing skills&#8221;<br />
The mission sounds good.  Sums things up quite nicely.  I was wondering, what do scientists get from increased productivity?  More time doing science?  Fewer hours at the office/lab?  Mission: show scientists how to be better programmers so they can spend more time</p>
<p>&#8220;The problem is that scientists spend 40% of their time wrestling with software&#8221;<br />
&#8220;The problem is that 95% of them are self taught&#8221;<br />
These sound more like statistics, but yeah&#8212;it&#8217;s pretty easy to make the connection to problems.<br />
The problem is that scientists waste time wrestling with software because they don&#8217;t have the right training.  Sort of like programming the time on a VCR without reading the manual&#8212;you&#8217;ll get it done, but it&#8217;s slow an painful (I&#8217;m old&#8212;I can refer to things like VRCs)</p>
<p>&#8220;Take too long, build things that are already build, don&#8217;t know how to verify correctness&#8221;<br />
This one hits the nail on the head.  There are three parts: time, duplication, correctness.  Would most scientists view all three as must-fix?  Or would one or more be nice-to-fix?</p>
<p>&#8220;Solution: short, intensive workshops with self paced online learning&#8221;<br />
Where do I sign up!</p>
<p>&#8220;Benefit: more confidence in results + higher productivity&#8221;<br />
Correctness was left out of this slide.  If your value prop is 1. time 2. duplication 3. correctness, does it make sense to talk about correctness here too?</p>
<p>&#8220;Workshop offer the basics&#8221;<br />
If they spend 40% of their time programming, do they already know the basics?  What about: workshops offer best practices and must-know skills/tools.</p>
<p>&#8220;More depth online&#8221;<br />
This one sounded like more breadth online.</p>
<p>Cool video.  If you put more cats in it, you&#8217;ll probably get more views&#8230; <img src='http://third-bit.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Software Carpentry in Ninety-Five Seconds by Michelle Levesque</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/4429.html#comment-8929</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Levesque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:01:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Content is good.  But don&#039;t just read the slides!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Content is good.  But don&#8217;t just read the slides!</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Algorithmic Thinking by David Flanagan</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/4426.html#comment-8927</link>
		<dc:creator>David Flanagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To give Davidson some credit, I don&#039;t think she intended all the bullets on that slide to be part of the definition of algorithm thinking.  But she was rushing throught he slides, and I didn&#039;t really get what she meant by those.  There does seem to be a bit of this:

1) Think algorithmically

2) ?

3) Profit!

But I assume that there is more to her ideas that.  I think her Mozilla talk is going to be rescheduled, so maybe we&#039;ll get to hear more.

Thanks for the link to Wing&#039;s paper.  Her computational thinking comes across as graduate-level stuff to me: advanced intellectual tools for success in a world dominated by computation.  Where Davidson&#039;s algorithmic thinking sounds more like a fundamental critical thinking skill for the masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To give Davidson some credit, I don&#8217;t think she intended all the bullets on that slide to be part of the definition of algorithm thinking.  But she was rushing throught he slides, and I didn&#8217;t really get what she meant by those.  There does seem to be a bit of this:</p>
<p>1) Think algorithmically</p>
<p>2) ?</p>
<p>3) Profit!</p>
<p>But I assume that there is more to her ideas that.  I think her Mozilla talk is going to be rescheduled, so maybe we&#8217;ll get to hear more.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to Wing&#8217;s paper.  Her computational thinking comes across as graduate-level stuff to me: advanced intellectual tools for success in a world dominated by computation.  Where Davidson&#8217;s algorithmic thinking sounds more like a fundamental critical thinking skill for the masses.</p>
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		<title>Comment on On Algorithmic Thinking by modelpractice</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/4426.html#comment-8923</link>
		<dc:creator>modelpractice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Everyone immediately started using it to mean whatever they already wanted to push&quot;

fully agree!  So, good to mention the original intention from time to time.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Everyone immediately started using it to mean whatever they already wanted to push&#8221;</p>
<p>fully agree!  So, good to mention the original intention from time to time.</p>
<p>|=</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bullshit, Appropriation, and Technology in Education by Simon</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/4428.html#comment-8920</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 04:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think it’s equally true that reformers all too often ask technology to solve educational problems, even though it has shown time and time again that it can’t.&lt;/i&gt;

Right. Technology isn&#039;t magic - it won&#039;t solve your problems simply by virtue of being technology. It&#039;s just a tool, opening up new ways for *people* to solve problems. Or to cause problems, for that matter - technology has no particular preference over how it&#039;s used...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think it’s equally true that reformers all too often ask technology to solve educational problems, even though it has shown time and time again that it can’t.</i></p>
<p>Right. Technology isn&#8217;t magic &#8211; it won&#8217;t solve your problems simply by virtue of being technology. It&#8217;s just a tool, opening up new ways for *people* to solve problems. Or to cause problems, for that matter &#8211; technology has no particular preference over how it&#8217;s used&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Hope Someone Has Already Built This by Janet Swisher</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/4423.html#comment-8917</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet Swisher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another piece of the puzzle is Popcorn.js (http://popcornjs.org), for integrating HTML5 media with other content. This is used by the BigBlueButton (http://www.bigbluebutton.org/overview/) online classroom software for playback of recorded classes. It synchronizes display of (PDF) slides with the recorded audio, advancing the slides at the same time as the instructor did during the original session.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another piece of the puzzle is Popcorn.js (<a href="http://popcornjs.org" rel="nofollow">http://popcornjs.org</a>), for integrating HTML5 media with other content. This is used by the BigBlueButton (<a href="http://www.bigbluebutton.org/overview/" rel="nofollow">http://www.bigbluebutton.org/overview/</a>) online classroom software for playback of recorded classes. It synchronizes display of (PDF) slides with the recorded audio, advancing the slides at the same time as the instructor did during the original session.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Work As Though You Lived in the Early Days of a Better Nation by Tom</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/4416.html#comment-8916</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 13:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great idea.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Browser-Based Programming Tool That&#8217;s Better Than Many Desktop Tools by Matt Doar</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/4417.html#comment-8911</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Doar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 20:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice - I&#039;ll be showing my 12 year old this soon. He&#039;s working through Zed Shaw&#039;s &quot;Learn Python the Hard Way&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice &#8211; I&#8217;ll be showing my 12 year old this soon. He&#8217;s working through Zed Shaw&#8217;s &#8220;Learn Python the Hard Way&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Hope Someone Has Already Built This by Greg Wilson</title>
		<link>http://third-bit.com/blog/archives/4423.html#comment-8909</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to everyone who pointed at various S5-like HTML slideshow tools and/or SVG drawing-based tools.  I&#039;ve played with several, but the synchronization between audio and several displays (slides and transcript) is what I&#039;m mostly looking for right now.

And on that, it seems that most tools are either drawing-oriented or text-oriented; one of the reasons I still use PowerPoint is that it seems to strike a good balance between the two (although that could just be familiarity).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to everyone who pointed at various S5-like HTML slideshow tools and/or SVG drawing-based tools.  I&#8217;ve played with several, but the synchronization between audio and several displays (slides and transcript) is what I&#8217;m mostly looking for right now.</p>
<p>And on that, it seems that most tools are either drawing-oriented or text-oriented; one of the reasons I still use PowerPoint is that it seems to strike a good balance between the two (although that could just be familiarity).</p>
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		<title>Comment on I Hope Someone Has Already Built This by Greg Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 16:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-8893&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Pandark&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-8895&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Goofy&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;#comment-8901&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mardeg&lt;/a&gt; Thanks for the pointer to timesheets.js --- it&#039;s very close to what I&#039;m after, and I&#039;ll contact the creators.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-8893" rel="nofollow">@Pandark</a> <a href="#comment-8895" rel="nofollow">@Goofy</a> <a href="#comment-8901" rel="nofollow">@Mardeg</a> Thanks for the pointer to timesheets.js &#8212; it&#8217;s very close to what I&#8217;m after, and I&#8217;ll contact the creators.</p>
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